Sunday, June 25, 2023

Julius Caesar, Redux? C'Mon, Man, It's Russia!

OK. Please forgive what might comprise gibberish from an amateur with access to a keyboard, a working internet, and time to kill on a sunny, hot Raleigh morning after walking the dogs. 

Do the events of the past few days in Russia make sense to you? If they do, tell me. They don't make sense to me, but that'll not going to stop me from expounding. I don't charge a cent for this, right?

Hanging out on Twitter, I saw the usual "Slava Ukraini!" crowd most of whom have shown themselves  wrong about everything from Trump-Putin collusion, the Hunter laptop as Russian disinformation, the effectiveness of the Wuhan jab, climate change, etc., etc. and etc, now cheering the Prighozin Wagner thugs as some sort of liberators. Prighozin as Julius Caesar crossing the Rubicon in 49 BC . . . yeah, yeah, yeah. Then, almost as suddenly as it all began, Prighozin announced he had negotiated a "deal" via Belarus President Lukashenko in which Wagner, now supposedly only 200 Kms from Moscow, would return to its "bases," and Prighozin would fly off to "safety" and exile in Belarus.

The press and the "experts" have loads of speculation about what all this means. Nobody knows, and neither do I, but . . . for what it's worth . . . let me lay out a few possibilities, with more questions than answers. 

How about an ill-conceived plot by Western intelligence agencies and money (the mysterious $6.2 billion of accounting error fame?) trying for Iraq-type regime change on the cheap? Could be. It certainly looked muddled enough. Let's put that aside, for now, because if it were, our leaky intel services will soon let us all know, anyhow. Seymour Hersh, call your office.  

Or, Prighozin had a genuine antipathy for Russian senior commanders and the Mindef? He felt disrespected, unsupported, and even betrayed when it was Wagner that had achieved Russia's wins in Ukraine. Possible. He might well have thought that his populist anti-corruption message combined with a "let's win or get out" theme would draw widespread support, and that mid- to lower-ranks of the military, at least, would refuse to block him, and perhaps even a few senior commanders might join. He might have envisioned a triumphal march on the capital taken from another figure in Italian history, Benito Mussolini. In the end, however, it would seem, he did not get the support he wanted, especially from the air force which could have wiped out his column; he decided to give in. Maybe.

That brings us to another issue. 

What sort of offer did Lukashenko, acting for Putin, make Prighozin that got him apparently to yield his prized and profitable Wagnerians? A plomo o plata deal (lead or silver) a la Mafia and cartels? If Prighozin is really an enemy of Putin and his claque, will Belarus under Lukashenko, a Putin puppet, prove a safe place for Prighozin? Stay away from tall buildings, buddy. What about the thousands of Wagner mercs who followed Prighozin? Will the Russian military honor their safety? I don't know, but they better keep looking over their shoulders.

There, of course, exist many other scenarios, including a combination of the two above, that you can conjure up. Including, that this was all some bizarre theater, undertaken for mysterious Kremlin reasons.

Who won? Well, on the surface it appears as a messy Putin win. Lots of chapters yet to follow, but we can speculate that Putin might have had to make deals with and concessions to the power elite around him that will cost him in the medium to long run. For now, however, he stays. Perhaps embarrassed and weaker, but he stays, well, as I said, for now. 

The PRC leaders, too, might rethink their support for Russia under Putin: a whole other issue worthy of much speculation. What does this do, for example, to their grand BRICS scheme? Anything?

More immediately, what does this do to the Russian "Special Operation" in Ukraine? Will that continue? Will Putin declare victory, and call it a day? Can the Ukrainians take advantage, and get their floundering offensive in gear? Will Zelensky ask for tons more of money? Well, that one's a given. The rest, we'll see. 

Russia is endlessly fascinating. No debate on that.

22 comments:

  1. I wonder how many human assets the MI5 and Combined Idiots against everybody burned in this little Hail Mary revolt? Seems a lot of arrests of 5th columnists in in process, a lot of running away "Rich" folks from Russia.

    Personally, I think that the USA and Lapdog English bribed Prigozhin and HE told Putin about it. A mock revolt, a lot of messy loose ends (even underperforming Russian General Officers) get cleaned up and we've dodged a nuclear sunrise for another day.

    As you said the usual "Slava Ukraini!" crowd got a little thrill to overcome the dismal results on the ground of the 3rd rebuilding of their army "Offensive".

    You know the European news has dryly noted that with all the "AID" to Ukraine they have become the 3rd best funded-equipped military in the world, behind America and China.

    Not a lot of Bang for those bucks I see.

    And if you look at the MAP (they are kind of important) the Musicians a very effective battlegroup has been "Demoted" from one now well controlled front to MUCH NEARER to the troublesome Poles and their "Volunteer Infiltrators" so recently feted by our Media for visiting Russians inside their villages.

    Stay tuned for even more distractions from our channel LOL

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  2. I've figured out how and why this 24 hour "coup" happened - the idiots in the US State Dept offered the Wagner guy $6 billion to attack Vlad (remember the 'missing' six billion from the Pentagon?). The Wagner guy saw an opportunity to screw America so he called Vlad up and they decided to split the $6 billion between them with a few hundred million peeled off for Lukashenko to act as the negotiator. Wagner pretends to attack Moscow, Vlad pretends to care, then after not even 24 hours have gone by they pocket the $6 billion, call off the fake coup, and lift a giant middle finger to GloboHomo and the US.

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    1. Funny, but my impression is that Putin is extremely aware and concerned about his public perception within Russia. He's long staged ridiculous photo opportunities to generate this 'invincible' aura among Russians. I personally doubt $6b would move the needle on that.

      - reader #1482

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  3. Totally off-topic, i thought you might be interested in this:
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  4. It's my understanding that the Russkie Defense Minister attempted to roll Wagner into the Russian army and they didn't want the pay cut. So the Russkies dropped some arty on them and things got out of hand.

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    1. yup... the Xi told those kids in the back seat to quiet down or they'll get it.

      - reader #1482

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    2. Appears to be some doubt that the "bombardment" was real. The helo/aircraft shoot downs were, but that appears to have been localized attacks that were reactions to what was going on.

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    3. Ya I'm seeing that the strike may not have happened. There is a webpage, app and youtube channel called Funker350 that has a compilation of a LOT of footage from Ukrane. Worth a watch on Friday's.

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  5. I came up with a few conspiracy theories of my own. http://angry.net/blog2/?p=40676

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  6. There's such a comic opera aspect to it that I cannot help but suspect collusion. What I don't have a handle on is the why.

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  7. GreT Coen bros film

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  8. Russian Ministry of Defense was abolishing Wagner's domestic arm as of July 1st when all of its soldiers in Ukraine were required to sign up with the russian military or retire. There was going to be a conflict over that issue anyways once July 1 had passed, so Prigozhin took the initiative. I think it's as simple as that.

    From the public statements of Putin and Prigozhin, it's clear to me that *some* powerful third party stepped in to resolve the issue. That definitely was *not* Lukashenko. Speaking of which, PRC officials recently visited Belarus.
    Putin is a marionette at this point. He wasn't always, but his hands have been doing Xi's bidding since well before their fateful meeting at the Beijing Olympics. Russia has gained nothing. Putin has gained nothing. The PRC has gained valuable insight into the limits of western alliances, materiel and tactics.
    Now I'm wondering if that Beijing meeting wasn't "Hey Vlad, can you hold off your attack until after the closing ceremony? It's going to be an embarrassment otherwise." But rather "No Vlad, you have to invade right after the Olympics. We've waited long enough for payoff on our investment in Russia. Get your athletes home, then send them directly into Ukraine."

    I'll say slava ukraine and be fine with it. I think Zelensky's doing a pretty good job under the circumstances. I think Biden botched international diplomacy and contributed to the invasion by trying to walk back Trump's "Do you really want to bet that I'm not a madman?" policy directives. That was perceived as American weakness from Afghanistan through Ukraine and over to Taiwan.

    Then, we slow-rolled our support. By the time Putin's Kyiv push resoundingly failed, the US should have started massive training efforts for the Ukrainian air force on F-15s and F-35s and sent over as many of our mothballed A-10s as soon as possible (I personally doubt that they'd be meat for russian AA, I think Ukraine's limited success in the air already has been flying low anyways, and the A-10s are survivable). We tiptoed into this mess with a lack of strategic clarity, and in doing so, we adopted Putin's views of the war. Instead of pointing out that Ukraine never touched russian soil, we spent our time "fearing escalation."

    Putin and Xi got where they are by having a good sense of smell when it comes to fear.

    - reader #1482

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    1. Oh yeah, Biden *never* should have promised Putin that the US would not intervene directly in Ukraine.

      "Hey guys, I just put my cards face up and as you can see I have a four of clubs and a nine of diamonds. That's a pretty good hand isn't it? You guys should fold before the flop!"
      "Yeah Joe, great."

      - reader #1482

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    2. In what universe does it matter to the United States which group of kleptocrats controls what portion of the great grass and mud sea?

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    3. Hard to conclude the recent Ukrainian attacks were all that great since they fell apart before even getting through the "Grey Zone," let alone any of the major Russian defensive positions. The Russians did very well in their defense--we can't assume they haven't learned anything over the last year (people seem fixated on doing that). Many of the UKA attacks were botched at best--you can't train people on new vehicles and systems for a few weeks and expect victory. NATO crews trained for years on this stuff. And a tank or IFV in the open can be killed--these are tanks, ATGMs and helos defending--not jihadis with IEDs. Been awhile since the US fought an actual conventional force--a long while. The IDF learned this lesson in 2006 in Lebanon.

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    4. Yeah, as far as I can tell, Ukraine still performs well in kind of an irregular defensive warfare, but that seems extremely difficult to convert to offense. That might be why Zaluzhny made the call to keep trolling the russian MoD into bakhmut, as they had few options to find good attrition ratios on offense?
      I doubt any of the US 'advice' has been helpful to Ukraine. Most likely they put some of it into play for show to keep fund raising going.
      Russian EW has apparently improved so vastly and so quickly that those bayraktars that were considered 'cheap' are no longer even worth pennies on the dollar to what was paid for them.
      Ukraine's fleets of DJIs are also almost certainly undermined by PRC assistance to russia.
      I agree they are vastly under-trained, but I also think that the Russians in Ukraine who have survived until now, are probably far superior to those sent in the initial invasion. The dumbest ones die.

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    5. As for who cares? I do, I think Taiwan is pretty great.

      - reader #1482

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  9. The people running our foreign policy are a combination of Jimmy Carter and a drag queen parade.

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  10. An interesting perspective of this kerfuffle as always Mr Diplomad.

    westiepeteNZ

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  11. Something Kipling said about the asylums of Calcutta filled with westerners who tried to outhustle the East?

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